obama. : . i was intrigued. >> bill: i want to ask you both about that. that was highly unusual to be say the least. right? for the president of the united states, who any president, they never sit down with anybody else to do a joint interview other than -- i can never remember one. i never remember one other than their wife. right? >> it's a thank you. right? to her. she had done incredible service and has gone through a bit of a gauntlet over the last month. i think don't you think, david? >> that's right. there is a caveat. he did a joint interview for nikolas sarkozy for french television. it was a thank you. in fact, the white house called up "60 minutes" and invited them. he was driving this train. i think what he said in the telecast, he wanted to thank her for doing a great job. i can't help but wonder if he is striking to stay neutral between hillary clinton and joe biden. biden has expressed interest and hillary clinton is apparently thinking about it. i think the president wants to s